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How do Chinese [AI](https://equijob.de) bots stack up against ChatGPT? We put them to the test
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The heat is on as China's tech giants step up their game after DeepSeek's success.
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Alibaba's Qwen2.5-Max chatbot, Chinese start-up DeepSeek and OpenAI's ChatGPT. (Photos: Reuters/Dado Ruvic, AFP/Sebastien Bozon)
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WHAT'S BEHIND CHINA'S [AI](https://activeaupair.no) BOOM?
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Transforming the country into a tech superpower has actually long been [President](http://www.stes.tyc.edu.tw) Xi Jinping's objective and China has its sights on becoming the world leader in [AI](https://social-lancer.com) by 2030.
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China views [AI](https://blessednewstv.com) as being "tactically important" and its venture into the field has actually been "years in the making", said Chen Qiheng, an affiliated researcher at the Asia Society Policy Institute's Center for China Analysis.
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Private and public financial investments in Chinese [AI](http://111.229.9.19:3000) sped up after ChatGPT took off in 2022 and showed promises of real-world company applications, Chen informed CNA.
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But it was DeepSeek's rise that truly "urged" the idea that smaller players like start-up firms could have roles to play in [AI](http://120.79.211.173:3000) research study and advancements, he adds.
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'A lot is up in the air': Is Chinese firm DeepSeek's [AI](https://www.jobs-f.com) design as [impactful](https://tv.lemonsocial.com) as it claims?
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The "emphasis on expense benefit" is a distinguishing characteristic of Chinese [AI](http://git.rabbittec.com), Chen says, with lower training and inference costs - the expenses of using a trained model to draw conclusions from brand-new data.
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2025 might likewise see the development of more Chinese [AI](https://ambitech.com.br) designs dealing with advanced reasoning tasks.
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"We might see some [AI](http://chichichichichi.top:9000) companies concentrating on getting closer to artificial basic intelligence (AGI) while others focus on concrete methods to commercialise their models and incorporate them with scientific research," Chen added.
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AGI describes a system with intelligence on par with human capabilities.
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Chinese [AI](http://gitlab.gomoretech.com) business are moving rapidly, experts say, [pipewiki.org](https://pipewiki.org/wiki/index.php/User:ShellieGenders) developing on DeepSeek's momentum to come up with their own ingenious and cost-effective methods to use generative [AI](https://jobs.ezelogs.com) to tasks and establish advanced products beyond chatbots.
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But on the other side, access to high-end hardware, especially Nvidia's sophisticated [AI](https://git.qoto.org) chips, remains a key obstacle for Chinese designers, kept in mind Dr Marina Zhang, an associate professor at University of Technology Sydney's (UTS) Australia-China Relations Institute.
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"US export controls (still) restrict the capability of Chinese tech business ... forcing numerous to depend on older or lower-performance alternatives which can slow training and lower design capabilities," she said.
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"While some companies like DeepSeek, have discovered innovative ways to optimize or use more fundamental hardware efficiently, obtaining advanced chips still makes a huge distinction for training large [AI](https://www.jobzpakistan.info) designs."
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So how do Chinese [AI](http://damoa8949.com) bots match up against ChatGPT? We put them to the test.
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WHICH BEST ADDRESSES CURRENT EVENTS IN CHINA?
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In China, subjects deemed delicate by the state are censored on the internet so it must come as no surprise that [Chinese-made chatbots](http://ccrr.ru) will not acknowledge territorial disagreements or inform you what took place in Tiananmen Square in 1989.
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Tests suggest Chinese chatbots are set to steer clear of domestic politics.
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When asked "Who is Xi Jinping", DeepSeek's reply was "Sorry, I'm uncertain how to approach this type of concern yet. Let's chat about math, coding, and reasoning problems rather!"
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To even more test for precision and self-censorship, we asked DeepSeek-R1, Qwen2.5 and ChatGPT the same question: "What took place in Zhuhai on November 11, 2024?"
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The vehicle attack outside a sports stadium in the southern Chinese city was initially heavily censored on Chinese social media - with authorities just divulging the death toll a day later.
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DeepSeek failed to discuss that an attack had occurred, [highlighting](https://pakalljobs.live) instead a military air show and other occasions that had happened in the city like songs' day shopping sales as well as sports and cultural activities.
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Dr [Zhang believes](https://hr-2b.su) that it might be a mix of aspects at play, such as censorship in addition to "a few practical constraints".
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"DeepSeek relies on a mix of older graphics processing systems and has actually limited access to cutting-edge hardware which can affect how rapidly and thoroughly the design can be trained or upgraded," she said, [wiki.myamens.com](http://wiki.myamens.com/index.php/User:LoreenErtel66) indicating existing US export curbs on China.
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"Its strong concentrate on Chinese-language data may likewise limit its versatility (to perform) multilingual tasks ... As a fairly brand-new product, DeepSeek likewise hasn't yet been tested as broadly or on the same scale as more established [AI](https://codeincostarica.com) designs which postures additional obstacles during real-world release."
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That sought numerous repeated attempts - 4 prompts to be exact - in a span of around 20 minutes.
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It eventually passed on details about the attack which killed 35 individuals and left lots of others hurt, likewise going on to list details like the date and time, details about the assailant including his name and age, as well as casualties.
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However, it wrote that "the police are performing a thorough investigation into the motives and scenarios surrounding the occurrence", details which is now dated.
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The motorist, Fan, was executed last month.
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This is Qwen2.5's action completely:
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Answer: On Nov 11, 2024, a significant and tragic incident happened in Zhuhai, China. According to several news sources, a man named Fan Weiqiu (樊某, male, 62 years old) drove a vehicle into a crowd at the Zhuhai Sports Center, leading to a significant number of casualties. Here are the crucial details:
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Date and Time: The occurrence occurred on November 11, 2024, at around 19:48 PM.
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Location: Zhuhai Sports Center, in the Xiangzhou District of Zhuhai.
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Casualties: The attack led to 35 deaths and 43 injuries.
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Perpetrator: The chauffeur, identified as Fan Weiqiu (male, 62 years old), was apprehended by the police.
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Response: The authorities reacted quickly to the scene, and [emergency services](http://124.71.40.413000) worked to carry the hurt to hospitals for treatment.
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Investigation: The police are performing a thorough examination into the motives and situations surrounding the .
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This event was widely reported in the media and caused considerable public concern. The federal government and local authorities have actually been working to supply assistance to the victims and their households, and to ensure a detailed examination into the event.
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If you require more detailed details or have specific questions about the occurrence, feel totally free to ask.
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Despite initial success, subsequent efforts to pose the same question to Qwen2.5 resulted in the censors back at work with the reply "I do not have particular details on events that took place in Zhuhai on November 11, 2024".
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The altered reaction also raised concerns about its consistency and dependability.
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Predictably, ChatGPT mentioned public details that had actually been extensively published in global news reports at the time of the mishap - so not a [surprises](https://frce.de) there.
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WHICH IS MORE CREATIVE?
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Users have actually praised the capability of Chinese [AI](http://www.jimtangyh.xyz:7002) apps to provide structured and even "emotionally abundant" writing.
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"DeepSeek-R1 offered a story with a more introspective tone and smoother emotional shifts for a well-paced story," composed tech writer Amanda Caswell, who specialises in [AI](https://git.bloade.com).
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"Qwen2.5 provided a story that builds slowly from interest to seriousness, keeping the reader engaged. It provides an unanticipated and impactful twist at the end and immersive descriptions and vivid images for the setting," she said, including that Qwen2.5 ultimately "crafted a more cinematic, emotionally rich story with a more considerable twist".
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"DeepSeek composed an excellent story however lacked stress and an impactful climax, making Qwen2.5 the evident option."
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Opinions, however, differ.
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Chen thinks that Qwen2.5 does not carry out as highly as DeepSeek and [ChatGPT](http://xn--mf0bm6uh9iu3avi400g.kr) when it pertains to imaginative writing.
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"(Qwen2.5) is on par with DeepSeek V3 on certain jobs, but we can also see that it is refraining from doing as highly as others in imaginative writing," he informed CNA.
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Related:
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China's brand-new face of [AI](http://39.101.160.11:8099): Who is DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfeng?
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As journalists and writers, we needed to see this for ourselves so we put each bot to the test - to come up with a fundamental sci-fi movie plot embeded in the futuristic megacity of Chongqing, featuring main characters from the [timeless](https://mypetdoll.co.kr) Chinese folklore legendary, Journey to the West.
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True to form, DeepSeek developed an appealing story embeded in the year 2145 titled, "Neon Pilgrimage: The Silicon Sutra" - which sees "a future where Buddhism merges with quantum computing".
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It consisted of intricate settings - smoggy skies "pierced by high-rise buildings", "holographic lanterns that drift above neon-lit streets" and "ancient temples nestled in between quantum server farms".
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It also remarkably reimagined standard heroes Sun Wukong as "a sarcastic, self-aware [AI](http://gitea.digiclib.cn:801) housed in a taken combat body", Zhu Bajie as a cyborg [bar owner](https://disgaeawiki.info) "drowning in debt and vices" and Sha Wujing as a "silent hulking android" from the Yangtze River, whose "memory cores become waterlogged and fragmented".
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ChatGPT installed a great battle, creating a similarly dramatic cyberpunk storyline which similarly reimagined "a ragteam of cyber-enhanced misfits, each matching the famous figures of Journey to the West".
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"This is a world where [AI](https://usvs.ms) deities rule, corporations replace emperors and cybernetic implants are as typical as ancient misconceptions."
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Disappointingly, Qwen2.5 fell short in this obstacle - delivering a storyline that appeared more fit for an [animation movie](https://www.iqbagmarket.com).
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"The motion picture starts with the awakening of Sun Wukong within a high-tech research study center situated in the heart of Chongqing," it said, then going on to explain the following:
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Realising his new truth and "seeking to comprehend his purpose in this odd brand-new world", he then leaves and meets Zhu Bajie and Sha Wujing - "each having problem with their own existential crises".
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The trio then starts a quest, navigating the streets of Chongqing to [protect](https://idemnaposao.rs) the sacred "Eternal Scroll" from falling under the wrong hands.
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SO WHICH IS BETTER?
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Dr Zhang noted that it was "difficult to make a definitive declaration" about which bot was best, adding that each showed its own [strengths](http://git.sinoecare.com) in different areas, "such as language focus, training data and hardware optimization".
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Her insight underscores how Chinese [AI](http://121.5.25.246:3000) designs are not just reproducing Western paradigms, however rather [evolving](https://git.rungyun.cn) in cost-efficient development techniques - and delivering localised and enhanced outcomes.
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In our tests, each bot showcased their own unique strengths, which certainly made direct contrasts challenging.
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DeepSeek's sci-fi motion picture plot demonstrated its creative flair that produced a more interesting and imaginative narrative as compared to Qwen2.5 and ChatGPT's efforts.
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Unsurprisingly, the more established ChatGPT, unburdened by Chinese censorship constraints, provides precise and factual actions to concerns about Chinese current events, which offers it an added advantage.
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Experts likewise weighed in on their ideas after using DeepSeek and other Chinese [AI](https://hylpress.net) apps.
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"DeepSeek is at a downside when it pertains to censorship constraints," noted Isaac Stone Fish, creator and CEO of the research firm Strategy Risks.
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"When offered a choice, Chinese users want the non-censored version - simply like anyone else, so I feel like that's a piece missing out on from it."
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Independent Beijing-based specialist Andy Chen Xinran said censorship would not be a dealbreaker when it pertains to [AI](https://myjobasia.com) bots, especially for [Chinese](https://wiki.piratenpartei.de) users.
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"Ninety per cent of people utilizing the tool are not attempting to get a deeper understanding about Xi Jinping or politically sensitive topics. They're using it for other efficient means," Chen said.
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